You do realize they use oil in making plastics and lubricants. Oh shit , what is Harris going to use if there are no more lubricants? Well, she will have to find a new profession!
The Best Explaination of the Keystone Pipeline I have seen online.....
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Real Estate offices still use fax machines. What's your point? Eventually nobody will use a fax. This isn't supposed to happen overnight. Slowly but surely we will have technology replace all these things as by human nature people are always finding more efficient and cheaper ways to produce the same products. Just because there is a need for plastic today, that doesn't mean that will always be the case. Get out of the past. Think forward. You used to see a lot of things you don't see anymore. Stop acting like these things will have a need forever.
There were consequences to transitioning from horses to the combustion engine. No more horses to feed off the hay provided by farmers. What about those blacksmiths who no longer had a job of fixing the shoes on horses? How about those leather manufacturers who no longer had a demand for saddles?
Those who don't think beyond their nose will be left behind. But you will eventually catch up just like those folks whose lives depended on horses.
When you don't have a sound rebut to the argument always fall back on right wing nonsense.
Who knew that the answer to the age old question about how to deal with the Keystone XL was lubrication and misoginy.
CD,
Not sure if you are missing or avoiding my point. You are speaking as a Socialist/Communist and talking about needing leadership and needing to invest in A,B or C. Keystone Pipeline is privately funded. Capitalists have chosen to invest their own money in the project because they believe they will profit from the benefits (efficient distribution of energy) to people that choose to pay for it.
The US Government is not funding this project. They are getting in the way of it with unproven claims of environmental harm. Biden's cancelling of the project only causes job losses of tens of thousands, increases the cost of energy,bcauses environmental harm (trains run on oil) and sends oil from Canada toi China where they will burn it. It does nothing to help clean energy or increase jobs.
In capitalism the market decides how to spend its money. In CCommunism and Socialism the government does. Please just admit that ypur debate is based upon a Socialist/Communist view of the world. While we will not agree on the Keystone Pipeline at least the root of the disagreement will be clear; Whether the US should remain a capitalist economy or move to be a socialist/communist society.
That's the other thing. I'm not convinced you know the meaning of socialism or capitalism at all based on your response here. It's at minimum not a good understanding of them. None of what I said has anything to do with either. You imply that leadership only can come from government agencies here. I never said or implied this. I don't think we are not using wood burning stoves because of the government. We have better technology now. Government just plays a role. It doesn't control how you bake your food. Government will never do that here. Republicans just like to imply that government is interested interested in this because they live thier through fear. Fear of anything different. Fear of people. Fear of change. Fear that they won't enjoy privilege awarded though years of inequality. Fear of competition. Fear overall.
BTW your talking points on jobs is also wrong. First of all these jobs will be replaced with higher paying jobs. Second of all we are talking about a thousand jobs.... not jobs that have yet to be offered.
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CD is good for comic relief.
Forget about the jobs lost and the fact that Kerry's answer to 11,000 lost jobs was from a scumbag elitist. If Kerry was so interested in the environment he would see that a pipeline is cleaner than the trucks that are transporting the oil into the U.S. This was one of the early B.S. Democratic talking points . They are just temporarily flexing their muscles. Ho hum...
You need to get your head out of your azz. Progress is underway but you and your Republican party are standing in the way. A few jobs lost today will mean millions in the future. The horse and buggy days have come and gone. Get on board or be left behind.
I love how they throw this bullshit arbitrary number out there for lost jobs...and their cucks just blindly follow. It's only 1,000 jobs. You cannot lose a job that was never offered. Clean energy will produce more jobs that pay more money. The problem is these oil companies have these Republicans by the balls. They fund thier campaigns so they have to fight for these dinasours. We are not investing in this any longer.
Please provide your definitions of Socialism, Communism and Capitalism. I am honestly curious.
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You know who is investing the most in alternative energy? Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Occidental, all the huge oil companies and they have been for years along with the Utility companies.
Absolutely. Because they know they have to diversify their business models to compensate for environmental concerns and decreasing use of fossil fuels.
Yea let Americans starve while they wait on these jobs ... Sill waiting 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The idiot leading more idiots..
11,000 people have a different opinion as to your definition of a few lost jobs. Also, that putz John Kerry is a POS for the cavalier comments he made regarding the loss of those jobs.
Now, very simple, is there more crap coming out of a trucks tail pipe transporting oil or less emissions from a pipeline? Easy question for you to answer.
Lets fire CEMS, CD's, and Raouls families and see how they feel then.
Yeah, because clearly everything has come so easily for us. We never had to worry about anything in our lives ever with our priviledge...smdh. It's life. I can't speak for them but I would be surprised if they have gone their entire lives without having to redefine themselves. That's what is called life.
Please don't give me homework assignments. I gave my opinion. You are regurgitating talking points republicans use out of fear. This is not a country that is ever going to be socialist. We have a constitution here. It's never going to be communist's and the people are going to elect our officials....so quit this bullshit about socialism. Its never happening here. Neither is communism and if you knew what those really were you wouldn't say anything this ridiculous. Our government is not going to run our lives in the manner you see a true socialist community. Your fear of this doesn't make it a possibility.
Or better yet, just look at what Trump's trade war with China did to American farmers.
You still don't get the bigger picture. Why are Republicans always against progress for humanity? What is wrong with you people?
That's the point. Why would you want to increase emissions by trucking in oil instead of a pipeline?
The alternative method of transportation is railroad, not trucks. As I pointed out earlier - rail and pipeline offer the same risk levels on spills.
All of this is of course irrelevant since the pipeline is dead.
Thats not true ..!!! There is mote risk over rail...
Data has shown this.. More lies from the 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
They said the same thing when the combustion engine was invented. Look how that turned out? Start now and when our grandkids become old like us their kids will have a better planet. Don't you want that?
Except for the fact that railways create carbon emissions dumbass
And operating costs are higher if it was the same or cheaper the companies wouldn’t be wanting to build a pipeline. You do seem like you do your research but you gotta quit looking at research that’s funded by the people that want to eliminate the pipeline and look at Independant research.
It’s just like the so called experts that come up with all this climate change info , be smarter that them they hire scientists and researchers to prove their point not to find the truth. I don’t get it how a lot of people believe everything anyone tells them about an issue without realizing the people they believe are paid by or positioned to profit from the alternative. They could care less about the climate they want to make money .
Your railways are owned by George Soros he has donated millions of dollars to get people elected so they can cater to him .
As far as we’re moving away from oil don’t kid yourself.
oil has a lot more uses than moving your car from point a to point b
Actually coal is the most used product for energy around the world in 2014 over 40% of the world’s energy was produced by coal good luck getting all those countries to use anything else anytime soon.
Oil is always going to be needed for so many things
Many of our personal care products are derived from petroleum including perfume, hair dye, cosmetics (lipstick, makeup, foundation, eyeshadow, mascara, eyeliner), hand lotion, toothpaste, soap, shaving cream, deodorant, panty hose, combs, shampoo, eyeglasses, and contact lenses.
You people think oil is only for combustion engines need to get your head out of your arse
Actually as far as electricity goes less than 10% of our electricity is produced with oil
Oil is only used to provide less than 10% of electricity in USA your clean energy won’t make plastics and synthetics and cosmetics and on and on and on you oli hating people are so clueless about all the products that you use all day long are produced from oil , even if we go 100 % electric vehicles we still need oil.
