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Vaccinated people easily spread the Delta variant.

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Covid is here to stay, it’s something we’re going to have to live with like the flu.

One side has been pushing simple ideas claiming there is a cure.

Locks downs are completely stupid, and if anyone believes they make sense at this point they’re a lost cause.

Vaccine mandates don’t stop the spread of Covid, and once freedoms are lost they’re gone forever.

Mask wearing doesn’t stop covid, the only thing they accomplish is identifying the scared, the sheep, and the virtue signalers.

Im not anti vaccines, I’m anti vaccine mandates. I’m vaccinated, and I believe the elderly and people with preexisting conditions should strongly consider getting vaccinated. Vaccinated people are not at risk from the unvaccinated, if they were there would be little use in getting vaccinated.

Science is an evolving process we’re going learn more over time. Authoritarianism and panic aren’t the answer in dealing with covid.


 
Covid is here to stay, it’s something we’re going to have to live with like the flu.

One side has been pushing simple ideas claiming there is a cure.

Locks downs are completely stupid, and if anyone believes they make sense at this point they’re a lost cause.

Vaccine mandates don’t stop the spread of Covid, and once freedoms are lost they’re gone forever.

Mask wearing doesn’t stop covid, the only thing they accomplish is identifying the scared, the sheep, and the virtue signalers.

Im not anti vaccines, I’m anti vaccine mandates. I’m vaccinated, and I believe the elderly and people with preexisting conditions should strongly consider getting vaccinated. Vaccinated people are not at risk from the unvaccinated, if they were there would be little use in getting vaccinated.

Science is an evolving process we’re going learn more over time. Authoritarianism and panic aren’t the answer in dealing with covid.


Mandates have protected the health of Americans for more than two centuries.
 
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So there are other vaccine mandates that don’t allow you to work ?
Mandatory childhood immunizations have been a feature of American society since the 19th century. Businesses, schools and others can legally stop you from entering the building or using their services if they choose to.
 
Mandatory childhood immunizations have been a feature of American society since the 19th century. Businesses, schools and others can legally stop you from entering the building or using their services if they choose to.
So your answer is no mandate for work !!! Got it.please let me know which buildings were not letting you in ???
 
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Mikey you sure love worshipping the authoritarian democrat party. They love you, you just shut up and obey them at all cost.
Quit being ridiculous. Vaccination mandates have nothing to do with politics and everything to do with public health. They've a part of our lives forever. As I've previously posted, I had to produce an up to date vaccination card before being admitted to school classrooms over 60 yrs, ago.
 
So your answer is no mandate for work !!! Got it.please let me know which buildings were not letting you in ???
You have a reading problem? I just told you Busineses, schools and Others can legally stop you from entering the building if they choose to. Where do you think work occurs? Public schools were not letting students in without providing an up to date vaccination card and that was over 60 yrs, ago!
 
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You have a reading problem? I just told you Busineses, schools and Others can legally stop you from entering the building if they choose to. Where do you think work occurs? Public schools were not letting students in without providing an up to date vaccination card.
What you’re overlooking is this administration has been bullying businesses do this.

This is not a vaccine, this is a shot. If the government can decide what we can inject in our body what can’t they do? If they can control our assembly and free travel through vaccine papers, what type of government do we have?

Mike I know you’re of the age when they actually taught legitimate history in school. What does this remind you of, didn’t Nazi Germany start off this way?
 
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What you’re overlooking is this administration has been bullying businesses do this.

This is not a vaccine, this is a shot. If the government can decide what we can inject in our body what can’t they do? If they can control our assembly and free travel through vaccine papers, what type of government do we have?

Mike I know you’re of the age when they actually taught legitimate history in school. What does this remind you of, didn’t Nazi Germany start off this way?
I am of the age when they taught legitimate history in school and one of the things I learned was that George Washington mandated smallpox vaccines for all his soldiers in 1777!
 
You have a reading problem? I just told you Busineses, schools and Others can legally stop you from entering the building if they choose to. Where do you think work occurs? Public schools were not letting students in without providing an up to date vaccination card and that was over 60 yrs, ago!
I don’t but you sure do !!! Which buildings kept you out before this ? Maybe you will answer., I doubt it.
 
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I am of the age when they taught legitimate history in school and one of the things I learned was that George Washington mandated smallpox vaccines for all his soldiers in 1777!
He did, but it wasn’t constitutional. Abe didn’t abide by the constitution at times either, both were wrong , but you’re purposely avoiding the points I made in the post. I know something in your liberal soul is telling you something is wrong.
 
I don’t but you sure do !!! Which buildings kept you out before this ? Maybe you will answer., I doubt it.
I already answered this. Public schools prohibited attendance without an up to date vaccination record. Please quit acting like this is something new and initiated by the Democrats. Public health vaccination requirements have had a limited association with political party affiliation, that is until now. As I pointed out earlier, there is a long history of non-political mandates requiring vaccinations for public health, dating back to 1777.
 
He did, but it wasn’t constitutional. Abe didn’t abide by the constitution at times either, both were wrong , but you’re purposely avoiding the points I made in the post. I know something in your liberal soul is telling you something is wrong.
You've made comments like, "worshipping the authoritarian democrat party, this is not a vaccine, this is a shot, something in your liberal soul". You're turning a public health issue into a political issue, which it is not. One thing experts and the data do agree on is that vaccines do significantly reduce the chance of hospitalization or death if a vaccinated person is infected.
 
He did, but it wasn’t constitutional. Abe didn’t abide by the constitution at times either, both were wrong , but you’re purposely avoiding the points I made in the post. I know something in your liberal soul is telling you something is wrong.
Vaccine mandates are absolutely constitutional.
 
I already answered this. Public schools prohibited attendance without an up to date vaccination record. Please quit acting like this is something new and initiated by the Democrats. Public health vaccination requirements have had a limited association with political party affiliation, that is until now. As I pointed out earlier, there is a long history of non-political mandates requiring vaccinations for public health, dating back to 1777.
I am trying to get an answer from a M….. !!!! The biggest virus in the world is that Of you socialists/ communist. They should have a mandate to send you to islands and never hear from you again. By the way you never answered what jobs were affected by vaccines before. 1000 word essay of pure sh., is all you answer.
 
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I am trying to get an answer from a M….. !!!! The biggest virus in the world is that Of you socialists/ communist. They should have a mandate to send you to islands and never hear from you again. By the way you never answered what jobs were affected by vaccines before. 1000 word essay of pure sh., is all you answer.
I should have known-this is all about politics not vaccines. "socialist/communist"? I've fought for my country to stop the spread of communism. What have you done? I never answered your dumbass question because it doesn't make sense. "what jobs were affected by vaccines before". What the hell does that mean? All of society is affected by vaccines and they have been mandated for years. George Washington mandated his army to be vaccinated for smallpox in 1777!
 
I should have known-this is all about politics not vaccines. "socialist/communist"? I've fought for my country to stop the spread of communism. What have you done? I never answered your dumbass question because it doesn't make sense. "what jobs were affected by vaccines before". What the hell does that mean? All of society is affected by vaccines and they have been mandated for years. George Washington mandated his army to be vaccinated for smallpox in 1777!
Bullshit !!! You would never answer because never has a job been asked for vaccine proof before this one. You are during a terrible job Of stopping communism in this country , cause that is exactly what your patty is spreading !!!! Like I said an island is were you all belong.
 
Bullshit !!! You would never answer because never has a job been asked for vaccine proof before this one. You are during a terrible job Of stopping communism in this country , cause that is exactly what your patty is spreading !!!! Like I said an island is were you all belong.
In California and Virginia, public employees are now required to be vaccinated or submit to regular testing. In New York, workers and customers in gyms, bars, and indoor restaurents are required to give their employers proof of vaccination. The Dept, of Veteran Affairs has mandated vaccines for all medical employees and the secretary of defense has said all troops are required to be vaccinated. Many private companies are taking a similar stance. Vaccine mandates are lawful and can b made a condition of employment. Maybe vaccine proof wasn't mandatory before but it is now or soon will be! Speaking of islands, I want to go to Jamaica or the Bahamas. One of the Hawaiian Islands would be OK but they're a little expensive.
 
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It’s being done by Marxist democrats, it’s sadly what you’ve turned into. In a short time the democrats are ruining everything in our country including the military. They’re destroying soldiers who refuse the vaccine, but they’re taking care of illegal immigrants big time.
 
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In California and Virginia, public employees are now required to be vaccinated or submit to regular testing. In New York, workers and customers in gyms, bars, and indoor restaurents are required to give their employers proof of vaccination. The Dept, of Veteran Affairs has mandated vaccines for all medical employees and the secretary of defense has said all troops are required to be vaccinated. Many private companies are taking a similar stance. Vaccine mandates are lawful and can b made a condition of employment. Maybe vaccine proof wasn't mandatory before but it is now or soon will be!
It takes a special kind of person to post this and to think that it’s good.
 
It’s being done by Marxist democrats, it’s sadly what you’ve turned into. In a short time the democrats are ruining everything in our country including the military. They’re destroying soldiers who refuse the vaccine, but they’re taking care of illegal immigrants big time.
"Destroying soldiers"? This from someone who supports a draft dodging POS who mocked a POW for being captured. You people are phukin hyprocrites!
 
In California and Virginia, public employees are now required to be vaccinated or submit to regular testing. In New York, workers and customers in gyms, bars, and indoor restaurents are required to give their employers proof of vaccination. The Dept, of Veteran Affairs has mandated vaccines for all medical employees and the secretary of defense has said all troops are required to be vaccinated. Many private companies are taking a similar stance. Vaccine mandates are lawful and can b made a condition of employment. Maybe vaccine proof wasn't mandatory before but it is now or soon will be! Speaking of islands, I want to go to Jamaica or the Bahamas. One of the Hawaiian Islands would be OK but they're a little expensive.
There is no way you can be that D …about the question asked. It has been at least 4 times the question asked. Then again you probably are !!!!
 
Mike no offense, but you’re sick.
You used to be a rational person and we had some good debates. Your Trump mania has sent you off the rails! Do you honestly believe that a person mocking a POW for being captured would make a good Commander in Chief? Last time he vowed to bring "endless wars" to a close but left behind a military fighting and advising in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. He also damaged civilian-military relations. He used troops and senior officers in clearly political events at times referring to "my generals".
 
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In California and Virginia, public employees are now required to be vaccinated or submit to regular testing. In New York, workers and customers in gyms, bars, and indoor restaurents are required to give their employers proof of vaccination. The Dept, of Veteran Affairs has mandated vaccines for all medical employees and the secretary of defense has said all troops are required to be vaccinated. Many private companies are taking a similar stance. Vaccine mandates are lawful and can b made a condition of employment. Maybe vaccine proof wasn't mandatory before but it is now or soon will be! Speaking of islands, I want to go to Jamaica or the Bahamas. One of the Hawaiian Islands would be OK but they're a little expensive.
Thank God DeSantis doesn't align with the warped thinking of California and Virginia.
 
Mandatory childhood immunizations have been a feature of American society since the 19th century. Businesses, schools and others can legally stop you from entering the building or using their services if they choose to.
I'm 62, worked in Corporate America from 1982 to 2010, traveled all over the Country for Business and Pleasure, and have never referenced my Vaccine status on a job application nor has it ever been requested of me. In other words, it's never happened and furthermore bumbling Joe Biden stated in December he would not mandate this vaccine. I'm not sure what planet you're living on Mike.
 
I'm 62, worked in Corporate America from 1982 to 2010, traveled all over the Country for Business and Pleasure, and have never referenced my Vaccine status on a job application nor has it ever been requested of me. In other words, it's never happened and furthermore bumbling Joe Biden stated in December he would not mandate this vaccine. I'm not sure what planet you're living on Mike.
In the states I previously mentioned, the proof of vaccination requirement has probably not been in effect that long. I don't know the dates. You can research that and find the same info as I did Also, in the states I mentioned, public employees are now required to be vaccinated or submit to testing regardless of what Biden stated. I didn't just make this up for the sake of argument. As for mandatory childhood immunizations, they have been in effect all my life. As I posted earlier, I had to provide an up-to-date vaccination card to be admitted to elementary school classrooms. That was over 60 yrs, ago. I don't understand all this vaccine turmoil but from what I've learned researching all this is that it began in the 1800s over smallpox vaccination. Health and medical scholars have described vaccination as one of the top ten achievements of public health in the 20th century. Yet opposition to vaccination has existed as long as vaccination itself.
 
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In the states I previously mentioned, the proof of vaccination requirement has probably not been in effect that long. I don't know the dates. You can research that and find the same info as I did Also, in the states I mentioned, public employees are now required to be vaccinated or submit to testing regardless of what Biden stated. I didn't just make this up for the sake of argument. As for mandatory childhood immunizations, they have been in effect all my life. As I posted earlier, I had to provide an up-to-date vaccination card to be admitted to elementary school classrooms. That was over 60 yrs, ago. I don't understand all this vaccine turmoil but from what I've learned researching all this is that it began in the 1800s over smallpox vaccination. Health and medical scholars have described vaccination as one of the top ten achievements of public health in the 20th century. Yet opposition to vaccination has existed as long as vaccination itself.
So you and I are in the same age ballpark Mike. You are asserting that vaccine mandates have always been in place. If it's apples to apples, then why do we now, with this vaccine, have people either voluntarily leaving their jobs or being put on unpaid leave, by the tens of thousands, for not agreeing to take this particular shot? Do you recall a similar scenario over any other vaccine mandate? I do not.
 
So you and I are in the same age ballpark Mike. You are asserting that vaccine mandates have always been in place. If it's apples to apples, then why do we now, with this vaccine, have people either voluntarily leaving their jobs or being put on unpaid leave, by the tens of thousands, for not agreeing to take this particular shot? Do you recall a similar scenario over any other vaccine mandate? I do not.
He will not answer, hasn’t done it for a few days. Gives you the a 1000 word essay. Nothing to do with the question. Would love to know if his teacher, administrators or health officials in his school had to show a vaccine mandate to work.
 
So you and I are in the same age ballpark Mike. You are asserting that vaccine mandates have always been in place. If it's apples to apples, then why do we now, with this vaccine, have people either voluntarily leaving their jobs or being put on unpaid leave, by the tens of thousands, for not agreeing to take this particular shot? Do you recall a similar scenario over any other vaccine mandate? I do not.
Mandatory vaccinations have always caused a negative response among portions of the population. Twice, cases have been brought before the Supreme Court, 1905 and 1922, where the principal of mandatory vaccination was upheld both times. Look up the history of mandatory vaccinations and you can read all a bout the various conflicts and resolutions.
 
He will not answer, hasn’t done it for a few days. Gives you the a 1000 word essay. Nothing to do with the question. Would love to know if his teacher, administrators or health officials in his school had to show a vaccine mandate to work.
For decades, all states required that parents vaccinate their children against various diseases as a prerequisite to enrolling them in public schools. In 1809, Boston imposed mandatory vaccination to quell recurring outbreaks of smallpox. Are you incapable of researching anything. Quit whining and look it up yourself!
 
For decades, all states required that parents vaccinate their children against various diseases as a prerequisite to enrolling them in public schools. In 1809, Boston imposed mandatory vaccination to quell recurring outbreaks of smallpox. Are you incapable of researching anything. Quit whining and look it up yourself!
Whining is what you do daily. Still have not answered the question ? Did your teachers have to show proof of vaccination to WORRKKKK ? Did those states mandate the teachers to be vaccinated? Boston did they mandate parents to be vaccinated to go to WORRRRKKKKK ?
 
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Whining is what you do daily. Still have not answered the question ? Did your teachers have to show proof of vaccination to WORRKKKK ? Did those states mandate the teachers to be vaccinated? Boston did they mandate parents to be vaccinated to go to WORRRRKKKKK ?
I don't know if my teachers had to show proof of vaccination. Thag was over 60 yrs. ago. "Did those states mandate the tea hers to be vaccinated"? If they mandated all the children, why would they not mandate the teachers? I'm through answering your questions. If you want answers, why don't you get to WORRRRKKKK and do your own research?
 
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