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Michael Sam moment was awesome

I thought that ESPN should have played Butterfly Kisses in the background.

While I had no problem with the incredible PDA, anybody who tries to say that this happens all the time with straight guys is kidding them selves. Think of every draft you have ever seen. Has the country ever been exposed to such an intimate moment before?

For example:
* all the arm stroking and back rubbing
* kissing your partner half a dozen times
* the incredibly incessant crying
* the wedding-like cake in the face deal

Again, as a person who roomed with a openly gay man for over a year, as a person who has had dozens of openly gay employees, and as a person who has a gay cousin, a gay nephew, and a gay niece, this episode did not bother me in any way.

But I thought that ESPN went too far in showing the entire episode and shoving this very private and intimate moment in the nation's face.


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The way I look at it. If Johnny football did that cake thing with his girlfriend all the espn guys would be talking about what an arrogant show off asshole he is.
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This was a calculated promotional play by the LGBT and purely a staged reaction. It's disgusting and ridiculous that this garbage is being literally forced on people. No one is promoting violence against gay people, it's gay people who are now constantly imposing their chosen twisted lifestyle on those of us who do not accept nor approve of it. Why is it that every time a moral discussion regarding this issue comes up, you get people associating non acceptance of it with wanting to be violent, hateful, or the ridiculous comparison to race issues. All of sudden it's become crazy for men to find it disgusting for men to poke each other in the azz??? No, what's disgusting and crazy is you clowns who've been jedi mind tricked into normalizing sexual deviant behavior. What's next on the agenda, pedophilia? Bestiality? Yeah, they were born that way and no one should criticize them for this behavior. As soon as the powerful propaganda machine begins to push other deviant behaviors as being normal, wa la, so will it be.

Gay agenda on the Fed level: No. 6 is to homosexually indoctrinate your kids, sensitivity training is a bs lie. They've never included race sensitivity in all these years so why the fck is homo sensitivity needed.





6. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by gay women and men, presenting, homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and lifestyle as a viable alternative to heterosexuality.

On the state level: (Da fuq does these 2 mean???)

7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.



8. Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage



unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.

Age of consensual sex, da fuq that have to do with being homosexual? You prhomosexual types keep believe there is no agenda and this promotion is just happenstance. And keep believing there's no follow up to this sickness being promoted. Enjoy when your child is subjected to this sickness, you'll see.....



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Take this Damn thread down!!!! This is wrong and Sad. The world is sick. I love everyone gay or not, but this world will suffer for BS that we do and think that its rite to do it. This is Sodom and Gomorrah all over again. nothing new under the sun.
 
Homos are desperate to be looked on as normal. I can understand that desire but aside from a few brainwashed liberals in this country they never will be looked on as that. They are biologically aberrant -they cant reproduce in their lifestyle without the abhorrent and selfish act of using surrogates and depriving the child from birth of one of its biological parents.
There is nothing new about open homosexuality. Everything progressives stand for has been done and failed in the past. Open homosexuality ,centralized economic planning and socialism .Trimming the military and relying on negotiation to keep the peace failed in Post WW1 Europe. The societies of Ancient Greece and Rome has prevalent homosexuality which helped end their reign as dominant civilizations as decadence grew and the military shrank.
Taken as individuals there are brilliant and wonderful people who have chosen that lifestyle .There are many intelligent Gays who understand that making alot of noise about being gay will backfire if pushed too far. But normalizing this behavior is destructive and history proves that.
UM ALUM is a troublemaker from way back and he is at it again.
 
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Originally posted by hisuleiman:
All this hate...enough to make the devil proud
This, right here, goes to my earlier point. To simply state that you do not like watching two men passionately kiss each other, then you "hate". There is no "hate" in that. Simply a point of view, a different value system. See, you think it is "hate" because it does not conform to your way of thinking. Now let's really think about who are the intolerant?? Who is the one hating here?
 
kerem, if you don't like it... then leave and go where you will be happy... plain and simple. Otherwise have a coke and a smile and STFU.
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Originally posted by honeyiv:
Originally posted by UMiamiAlum:
Loved seeing how happy that kid was.
Gill. I totally accept homosexuality. I really do. I just think Sam went too far tonight. I also think he's a stud who the Rams stole!
Honey, Ram's GM feels Michael Sam can feel many holes for them.
 
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Not liking to see two guys kissing is not hateful. Saying that two guys kissing shouldn't be on tv is.

Lot of mental midget homophobes on this board.
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One of the most disturbing moments ever. Total setup and the NFL should be ashamed. Our society is falling apart.
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It was staged political theater designed to advance a political agenda. That is why it offended me. They had the whole thing set up and the clip ran and ran and ran.. is it still running?? I can't look. Clearly there are those who aim to glorify the Gay life style, many in the media.
 
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Total non win situation unless you support the political correct position that gay marriage should be put on the same level as a heterosexual marriage. If you don't you're a homophobe. I could care less what someone does in the privacy of their own home but this was over the top as it went on for over 5 minutes and ESPN should have turned off the camera and went back to the draft.

It is a topic I definitely stay away from on Facebook.
 
Originally posted by Joetoth

Originally posted by hisuleiman:
All this hate...enough to make the devil proud
This, right here, goes to my earlier point. To simply state that you do not like watching two men passionately kiss each other, then you "hate". There is no "hate" in that. Simply a point of view, a different value system. See, you think it is "hate" because it does not conform to your way of thinking. Now let's really think about who are the intolerant?? Who is the one hating here?
What a stupid ass argument. Yes, I'm intolerant of your intolerance.
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Originally posted by theguv:
Not liking to see two guys kissing is not hateful. Saying that two guys kissing shouldn't be on tv is.

Lot of mental midget homophobes on this board.

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Ummm........neither of those two things is "hateful." Treating a gay guy differently or beating the crap out of him is "hateful." Not liking to see two guys kissing or not wanting to see it on TV isn't "hateful," it is an opinion.

The bottom line of this whole situation is that there was no reason for Sam to announce his sexuality. The clearly choreographed, agenda driven reaction to being drafted was uncalled for. That wasn't a natural reaction. He and his boyfriend wanted to use the coverage to flaunt their lifestyle and throw it in everybody's face.

I don't care what they do in their bedroom. I do care what they do while I'm watching NFL draft coverage where sexual expression (either hetero or homo) isn't part of the event.
 
Hey Parkslope, what's with the Boston comment?
The most educated & extremely progressive(at least in the suburbs, Newton, Cambridge...)
Leave us alone...agree with your post completely-- don't like don't look--
I think a lot of 'us' like to pretend we don't like to look, but with hands covering the face
The fingers are separated & eyes open...k, now say it dumbos, " what a ******t"
 
I specifically used the word shouldn't for a reason. Not wanting to see two gay men kiss on tv is not hateful. That's why you can just change the channel. But saying two men kissing SHOULDNT be on tv is essentially lobbying for a discriminatory practice.
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Agree Joer, however what beats me is those that say they don't
like to watch gays of either gender kissing on TV
WHY watch it? Somebody got a gun at your head? Flip the channel
Don't need a PHD to figure that out...gees
 
Originally posted by kerem:


Originally posted by tander6001:
Wow dude...agenda much. Threw in race card for good measure. You're an idiot.


blockquote>

Originally posted by kerem:

The only thing as sure as the sun rising in the morning is the MEAT HEAD brigade getting totally worked up and crazy over anything homosexual. The ignorance and MASSIVE INSECURITY of the Meathead brigade never never never never fails.

The minute I saw the headline, I knew the the homophobic morons would be fired up and out in full force.

Same morons who would have NO problem with if it was John Q Quarterback making out with his plastic, fake tits, fake blond girlfriend ..............THAT would be ok

and Im sure many of these same morons (although they would NEVER admit it or post it) are uncomfortable with a black player making out with his white girlfriend





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No. No agenda much ......just a response to the knuckle dragging crowd. .... what u call the race card I call reality....sorry, didn't mean to offend u but I guess I struck a nerve
WHERE THE HELL IS MY BANANA?

WHO STOLE MY BANANA?
 
Originally posted by honeyiv:
Originally posted by kerem:


Originally posted by tander6001:
Wow dude...agenda much. Threw in race card for good measure. You're an idiot.


blockquote>

Originally posted by kerem:

The only thing as sure as the sun rising in the morning is the MEAT HEAD brigade getting totally worked up and crazy over anything homosexual. The ignorance and MASSIVE INSECURITY of the Meathead brigade never never never never fails.

The minute I saw the headline, I knew the the homophobic morons would be fired up and out in full force.

Same morons who would have NO problem with if it was John Q Quarterback making out with his plastic, fake tits, fake blond girlfriend ..............THAT would be ok

and Im sure many of these same morons (although they would NEVER admit it or post it) are uncomfortable with a black player making out with his white girlfriend





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No. No agenda much ......just a response to the knuckle dragging crowd. .... what u call the race card I call reality....sorry, didn't mean to offend u but I guess I struck a nerve
WHERE THE HELL IS MY BANANA?

WHO STOLE MY BANANA?

And you prove his point.
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Originally posted by amida33:
Agree Joer, however what beats me is those that say they don't
like to watch gays of either gender kissing on TV
WHY watch it? Somebody got a gun at your head? Flip the channel
Don't need a PHD to figure that out...gees
I, for one, did flip the channel. However, this is not something I should expect to see watching NFL draft coverage. Just like I wouldn't expect to see a girl start giving a guy that just got drafted a hand job. The brief moment I saw was "sensual" and wasn't just a congratulatory peck.

It was also clear that the entire scene was designed to be part of an agenda. This entire situation was set up to promote a lifestyle that is practiced (whether chosen or genetic who knows) by under 3% of the population. The media has been begging for an openly gay male athlete forever just for these type of scenes.

I have no problem with gay people. They can do whatever they want with whomever they want. What I do have a problem with is trying to force people to participate in their lifestyle with things like the televised, choreographed affection scene over being selected near the end of the 7th round of the draft.
 
Originally posted by sabrose:
Homos are desperate to be looked on as normal. I can understand that desire but aside from a few brainwashed liberals in this country they never will be looked on as that. They are biologically aberrant -they cant reproduce in their lifestyle without the abhorrent and selfish act of using surrogates and depriving the child from birth of one of its biological parents.
There is nothing new about open homosexuality. Everything progressives stand for has been done and failed in the past. Open homosexuality ,centralized economic planning and socialism .Trimming the military and relying on negotiation to keep the peace failed in Post WW1 Europe. The societies of Ancient Greece and Rome has prevalent homosexuality which helped end their reign as dominant civilizations as decadence grew and the military shrank.
Taken as individuals there are brilliant and wonderful people who have chosen that lifestyle .There are many intelligent Gays who understand that making alot of noise about being gay will backfire if pushed too far. But normalizing this behavior is destructive and history proves that.
UM ALUM is a troublemaker from way back and he is at it again.
Money Post!!! I say homos should accept the fact that they cannot reproduce and accept what comes with their sexually deviant decision. It's not the same as a hetero couple being unable to have kids due to a medical issue, homos biologically can never reproduce even under normal healthy conditions. If that's what you choose then accept the natural restrictions that come along with it. Regarding the above post, he's absolutely right. Homosexuality destroys the foundation of a culture/society and will ultimately, along with other degenerate behavior, lead to the fall of America. I know it sounds a bit far fetched to many of you linear thinking dudes who don't understand nature and the importance of balance.

As Sabrose said, this deviancy is nothing new, Greece and Rome practiced it as a norm. Not that homosexuality was the primary or sole reason for the destruction of those civilizations, it sure as hell can be included as one of the reasons though. This societal shift will have a negative affect on this country. You who cheer this behavior on have been officially mind fckd. Welcome to your new matrix and stay tuned, there's more to come....
 
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Liberals are like adolescents that never grew up. Whatever their parents did they have to do something different.They are so bent on being "new" and different that they are like lemmings marching this country off a cliff. The family structure is being destroyed by financial rewards for irresponsible reproductive behavior, our citizenship is being devalued by an administration intentionally violating immigration laws
We are advertising in Mexico to teach illegals how to apply for food stamps and the feds are opposing any state that dares to make people present reasonable identification at the polling booth. Our miltitary is dismissing brave soldiers who dont believe in gay marriage and Generals are being sacked who dont share the presidents warped belief that the United States needs to lose stature in the world.
As a physician I see my senior patients' health plans become more dictatorial and restrictive due to Obamacare- a plan rammed through by chicanery by the Dems even though the majority of Americans opposed it.
The president is trying to raise taxes on energy as a new recession is starting and is obstructing the development of petroleum reserves which would make us independent from despots in the middle east. SO while small businesses flounder with increased taxes and regulations he proposes raising the minimum wage which will put even more people out of work.
The 40 percent of people who always approve Obama are those who would raise someone elses taxes to pay for their free stuff-how despicable. The Dems want to grow that number by importing as many dependent people in this country as they can. If they succeed they will govern over a declining country on their march to suicide. Its like the old fable about the man who cut down his house to feed his fire in the winter because he neglected to gather wood in the fall .As he sat there exposed and dying he lamented his lack of foresight.
 
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Originally posted by sabrose:
Liberals are like adolescents that never grew up. Whatever their parents did they have to do something different.They are so bent on being "new" and different that they are like lemmings marching this country off a cliff. The family structure is being destroyed by financial rewards for irresponsible reproductive behavior, our citizenship is being devalued by an administration intentionally violating immigration laws
We are advertising in Mexico to teach illegals how to apply for food stamps and the feds are opposing any state that dares to make people present reasonable identification at the polling booth. Our miltitary is dismissing brave soldiers who dont believe in gay marriage and Generals are being sacked who dont share the presidents warped belief that the United States needs to lose stature in the world.
As a physician I see my senior patients' health plans become more dictatorial and restrictive due to Obamacare- a plan rammed through by chicanery by the Dems even though the majority of Americans opposed it.
The president is trying to raise taxes on energy as a new recession is starting and is obstructing the development of petroleum reserves which would make us independent from despots in the middle east. SO while small businesses flounder with increased taxes and regulations he proposes raising the minimum wage which will put even more people out of work.
The 40 percent of people who always approve Obama are those who would raise someone elses taxes to pay for their free stuff-how despicable. The Dems want to grow that number by importing as many dependent people in this country as they can. If they succeed they will govern over a declining country on their march to suicide. Its like the old fable about the man who cut down his house to feed his fire in the winter because he neglected to gather wood in the fall .As he sat there exposed and dying he lamented his lack of foresight.
Hall of Fame Post...
 
As is typical, those posters with an agenda lump all the critics together. Anybody who has a contrary opinion is called a homophobe, a bigot, or a hater. In reality, most of us were not criticizing Sam and his partner at all. Our criticism was on how ESPN shamelessly exploited the situation.

Those of you who say ridiculous things like "if you don't like it just change the channel " are way off base. None of us watching knew what was in store when that clip came on. I have been watching the draft on ESPN for its entire 30 year history, and most in-home video clips last a minute at best. This five or six minute clip showing this intimate private moment between these two young men was a total invasion on their privacy. And ESPN should be ashamed of themselves for shoving this very personal, private, and intimate moment down the throat of the nation

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Sabrose awesome post

Park slope dad stay out in park slope with your socialist pal Di Blasio.
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Sabrose Medicare expenditures and subsidies were out of control. The government was paying to doctors almost whatever they demanded.
That welfare gravy train and socialized medicine had to be curtailed so younger adults could afford to buy health care. They have. 1 million in Florida.
Your post is self delusional. You want welfare for seniors so the government can pay your fees. But you criticize other subsidies as socialism. This corrupt out of control program (medicar, the long wet kiss between the feds and the doctor's lobby)had to be curtailed or our nation would go bankrupt.

As Randy would say, welfare is welfare.

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Ardvarkas,

Your co sign of sabrose's post is more depression than sabrose's post. You have a college degree and a JD and this is what you think? This is the tenor of your true thoughts?
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Originally posted by Joer:
As is typical, those posters with an agenda lump all the critics together. Anybody who has a contrary opinion is called a homophobe, a bigot, or a hater. In reality, most of us were not criticizing Sam and his partner at all. Our criticism was on how ESPN shamelessly exploited the situation.

Those of you who say ridiculous things like "if you don't like it just change the channel " are way off base. None of us watching knew what was in store when that clip came on. I have been watching the draft on ESPN for its entire 30 year history, and most in-home video clips last a minute at best. This five or six minute clip showing this intimate private moment between these two young men was a total invasion on their privacy. And ESPN should be ashamed of themselves for shoving this very personal, private, and intimate moment down the throat of the nation

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So it is okay for the other side to lump all liberals together? Most people are criticizing Sam. You might not be, but most people on here are.

If you want to place blame then it should fall completely on ESPN. This really has nothing to do with homosexuality, but about the media trying to generate viewers. I can agree with that. Exploitation of anyone is wrong.

But when Andy Dalton shares an intimate moment with his girlfriend no one cries and complains about it. When the Pouncey brothers kissed each other no one said they thought they were going to throw-up. That is the part that is wrong. There was a time when people were disgusted with the site of a black man with a white woman. You are choosing the emotion of disgust. It is a pretty simple concept. We decide if we are angry, sad, happy, etc. I do not understand why someone would choose hate, anger, sadness, or any emotion that will bring more pain to yourself or others.

The whole diatribe about the downfall of civilizations was one of the most comical things I have read today.
 
Originally posted by theguv:
Ardvarkas,

Your co sign of sabrose's post is more depression than sabrose's post. You have a college degree and a JD and this is what you think? This is the tenor of your true thoughts?
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JD are a dime a dozen.

It's not like it takes a genius to get through law school. It just takes some coin.
 
Does anybody know of the nearest urgent care center in the 33140?

I need immediate medical attention for my bloody hands as I have been dragging my knuckles for 46 years.
 
Sam said: I don't know about the rest of you c**ksuckers but I'm going to the league.
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Originally posted by andyctree:
Originally posted by Joer:
As is typical, those posters with an agenda lump all the critics together. Anybody who has a contrary opinion is called a homophobe, a bigot, or a hater. In reality, most of us were not criticizing Sam and his partner at all. Our criticism was on how ESPN shamelessly exploited the situation.

Those of you who say ridiculous things like "if you don't like it just change the channel " are way off base. None of us watching knew what was in store when that clip came on. I have been watching the draft on ESPN for its entire 30 year history, and most in-home video clips last a minute at best. This five or six minute clip showing this intimate private moment between these two young men was a total invasion on their privacy. And ESPN should be ashamed of themselves for shoving this very personal, private, and intimate moment down the throat of the nation

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So it is okay for the other side to lump all liberals together? Most people are criticizing Sam. You might not be, but most people on here are.

If you want to place blame then it should fall completely on ESPN. This really has nothing to do with homosexuality, but about the media trying to generate viewers. I can agree with that. Exploitation of anyone is wrong.

But when Andy Dalton shares an intimate moment with his girlfriend no one cries and complains about it. When the Pouncey brothers kissed each other no one said they thought they were going to throw-up. That is the part that is wrong. There was a time when people were disgusted with the site of a black man with a white woman. You are choosing the emotion of disgust. It is a pretty simple concept. We decide if we are angry, sad, happy, etc. I do not understand why someone would choose hate, anger, sadness, or any emotion that will bring more pain to yourself or others.

The whole diatribe about the downfall of civilizations was one of the most comical things I have read today.
People are choosing with what type of emotion to react with? Do you also believe that people choose to be gay?
I found it sickening and that was an instantaneous response, I didn't choose how to react. I find it funny that if the majority doesn't view things as the minority do, then they're either narrow - minded, homophobes, or some other derogatory term.
 
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Originally posted by theguv:
Ardvarkas,

Your co sign of sabrose's post is more depression than sabrose's post. You have a college degree and a JD and this is what you think? This is the tenor of your true thoughts?

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lol... Please... I voted for Kerry for President and I am liberal on 90% of social issues, including the issue of gay and lesbian marriage. However, I AM conservative on economic issues, and I agree with what sabrose posted above- if that ruffles peoples' feathers then so be it.

Most of the time my opinions are criticized by liberals and conservatives because I refuse to lean heavy right or heavy left across the entire board. I am a registered Republican because in Florida, one has to be registered either Republican or Democrat to vote in the Primary. Other than that, I pride myself in forming my own opinions on matters based on what I think, not along party lines- and my track record of voting and who I have supported over the years fully supports that.
 
Originally posted by honeyiv:
Originally posted by GILL06:



Originally posted by ParkSlopeDad:
The shear ignorance on this thread is hilarious. I agree with Cleveland, he was joyful at being drafted. Big whoop. You idiots who can't take it must really be insecure and uncomfortable in your own skin. Let it go. I'm married with 3 kids. Worked in NYC and L.A. for 12 years so maybe I'm a little more used to it. You'd think you all live in Boston not Miami. Live and let live! He wasn't trying to shove anything down your thought. He was expressing pure joy with his significant other. Deal with it.
Why Is it crazy that everyone DOES NOT accept homosexuality? I don't want to see women kissing other women on TV also, He still has to make the team. I pray he gets cut so this nonsense dosent have to air again Y
Gill! Cmon! Women kissing other women is so fvcking! hot!

You have to admit that!

LOL! Honeyiv, you are crazy! he has a right to do whatever he wants, just dosen't make it right. I have two kids asking me questions about this when it aired. I don't condone homosexuality and NO ONE will ever make me accept it. You don't see this kind of media covering Tebow when he was all about Jesus and promoting Christianity. I hate the Gators as much as anyone, but would love to see TEBOW right now!
 
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Originally posted by theguv:
Not liking to see two guys kissing is not hateful. Saying that two guys kissing shouldn't be on tv is.

Lot of mental midget homophobes on this board.
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I find the homophobia comment stupid and over used. a phobia is a fear of something...I fear no man that breathes and or bleeds. Homosexuality is wrong in my eyes. I will never accept, defend, or celebrate a homosexuals lifestyle. There is no parallel to Civil Rights. So far the last time. I am a Christian, his behavior is sinful. Yet he has a right to kiss a man on TV and I have a right to say its immoral, wrong, sinful, and disgusting. So am I discriminating against him, NO, I just believe that his behavior is WRONG! A married man with 3 mistresses is also wrong, stealing is wrong, murder is wrong, A man making love to another man is wrong also.

The homophobic comments do little to deter my beliefs, we are not to be of this world, translation- I live my life by God's word, not mortal man of which you are....Wrong is Wrong in 2014 and 2000 BC and forever.
 
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Interesting that a few use the Greek & Roman acceptance of
homosexuality as reason why the societies failed,
in fact they flourished when it was the norm of the highly educated
older man to take a younger man as a lover & student--
it was Plato who had a male lover student, Aristotle
who in turn took on Alexander the Great--further it was Plato with his "Republic"
that set the gold standard for what we like to call Democracy
of course our society is not a Democracy it is a Plutocracy(government by the rich)
but that's not the issue--argue your points all you want, but please check your facts & history
 
The problem isn't just this gay guy kissing a guy! It's the fact that America wants to force gay acceptance! It's a sexual preference that gets way too much air time. Who a guy has sex with has absolutely NOTHING to do with sports. Airing gay ppl biz out all over media outlets is the bigger problem. I don't have to accept gay, just like chicks don't have to have anal or give head... It's no ones biz if I don't lick my chick before sex, I didn't have to make a public service announcement for that... But every gay person does! That's the problem.
 
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